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Donald Stidwell  
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 More options Nov 7 2008, 3:48 pm
From: Donald Stidwell <donald.stidw...@mac.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:48:00 -0500
Subject: Quick Impressions of my BB Curve
Okay, I've been using Windows Mobile devices and prior to that, Palm  
devices, for years. My first PDA was the Palm Pilot Pro and my first  
WM device was the H1910. So I expected somewhat of a culture shock  
with the Blackberry Curve. It hasn't happened and I'm very comfortable  
and happy with the device. I just wanted to share a few quick initial  
impressions.

I find that the BB OS is more like Palm than Windows Mobile in its  
simplicity and speed. This thing is so much faster than my Wing and I  
haven't had any memory issues with it whatsoever. Now realise that I  
don't have nearly the quantity of apps on it either. Windows Mobile  
for me really has been pretty much a computer in my pocket  and the  
apps I always have loaded on my WM devices reflect this. The major  
emphasis of the Blackberry is communications and there it excels.

The first and biggest thing that impresses me about the Curve  
(technically Blackberry 8320) is the screen. It has the same  
resolution as most WM devices at 320x240 so that's not a big deal. But  
the screen can be read inside and out, even in the brightest sunlight!  
I've never had a WM device that I could read outside in bright sun.  
This is a major plus for the Blackberry. It also has a light sensor  
that adjusts the screen to lighting conditions and it works very well.

The keyboard is also a big winner. I can type quite quickly (remember,  
it is a thumb board, so no 100+ WPM on this puppy) and much quicker  
than I could on the Wing's keyboard. In fact, after a week of use, I  
can easily see me approaching and even exceeding the speed of FITALY  
on my WM devices. I do wish the keys were a bit softer though. I can  
see where folks get "Blackberry thumb" from typing on those hard  
plastic keys. I've never used a Treo so can't compare the BB keyboard  
to the Treo keyboard, but I'd have to suspect they are similar.

Push email is the bomb! I get mail on my BB before it even appears in  
my Mail application on my Mac. In fact, I'm using the BB for almost  
all my email needs and rarely open Apple Mail on my computer anymore.  
(Obviously, I did for this email because of its length). The BB will  
place messages deleted from it in the deleted mail of my desktop app  
if I tell it to and the same for sent messages. Really nice. The only  
downside to the BB mail is that it doesn't work with IMAP folders at  
all (I imagine this is a limitation of the Blackberry Internet  
Service) so I can't access my folders in my dot Mac (oh, sorry it's  
Mobile Me now) account. But this is really a minor shortcoming since I  
almost never have a need to refer back to old emails. And if I want  
to, I can just keep all my incoming emails in the Inbox of my BB. With  
my Wing, I had to poll email to get it, which is not true push. Having  
true push of a non-Exchange email account really is wonderful - I  
never realised how useful it would be.

The Blackberry browser, at least with OS 4.5 (which I installed the  
day I got my Curve) is at least as good as PIE, but Opera Mini on the  
Blackberry is fantastic. I had Opera Mobile on my Wing and I found it  
slow and almost useless, mainly because I had to install it on the  
micro SD card and it really was dog slow. I didn't have the memory to  
put it in RAM and nothing I did could free up enough. So transferred  
my Opera license from my Wing to the HX-2415, where I could load it in  
RAM and run at a decent speed. Opera Mini on the BB though runs  
fantastically and I'm quite impressed with it. I just wish there was a  
way to make it the default browser.

Multimedia is no better or worse than on the Wing (well, except for  
the fact that the BB comes with a regular 3.5 mm headphone jack so I  
can use my high end phones with it. What genius at HTC came up with  
that stupid USB earphone connection?) I don't bother using the Roxio  
converter for multimedia. I just copy my music, videos and photos  
directly to the device using the mass media mode when connected to the  
Desktop Manager. I do convert video using VisualHub on my Mac first to  
a BB friendly mp4 format. But overall, multimedia is a draw.

I love the fact that I can switch to speaker phone on a call just by  
pressing a button on the keyboard. It frustrated me to no end on the  
Wing having to go through a menu to accomplish this, especially while  
on a call. Also, the speaker on the Wing is LOUD and clear. Infinitely  
better than the Wing speaker that is anemic by comparison. I can  
actually listen to music without earphones at a decent level and it  
even enough has bass to notice when a song has bass. It's not an  
audiophile experience by any means, but it's not bad. Through  
earphones, it's just as good as my iPods.

I thought I would miss the touch screen and soft keys on my Wing, but  
truly the Blackberry scroll button works wonderfully and I have no  
complaints about it.

There are many programs that I have on my Wing and HX-2415 that have  
absolutely no equivalent on the BB, or if they do, they are too  
expensive. I've only purchased one 3rd party program for the BB (Olive  
Tree's Bible program). PI is available but it's definitely in the  
infant stages and from my perspective, not a whole lot better than the  
native Blackberry PIM, so I'll just stick to the native PIM for now.  
It's probably as good as the native PIM on the Palm so I'm not  
complaining.

The bottom line is that the Blackberry is a marvelous communications  
device and an adequate PDA (primarily due to lack of 3rd party apps  
that I would want). So I am using my Wing as a PDA only (since it has  
no SIM card now, I put it in flight mode) and have re-retired my  
HX-2415. With Windows Mobile, the soft keys really make a big  
difference in using the device and since the HX-2415 is WM2003SE, it  
doesn't have soft keys and I miss them.

The T-Mobile version of the Curve has a feature called UMA which  
allows transitioning voice calls from WiFi to the GSM network and vice  
versa. But you have to subscribe to the $10/month Hotspot@Home to use  
it and I don't actually use my cell phone for voice calls enough to  
merit the expense. But it is an option and I hear it works pretty well.

Overall, I don't regret my purchase of the Curve and it's a keeper.  
With the OS update to 4.5, the Curve now does HTML email and includes  
Documents-to-Go to read and edit attachments (put you can't create  
files with the standard version - you have to shell out $69 to create  
files, spell check and some other stuff. Too rich for my blood - the  
standard version serves my needs just fine). But in addressing these  
two issues, RIM changed my mind about using a Blackberry. (I had  
bought one while in Texas and returned it the next day because of the  
lack of these two features).

Don


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Bert Latamore  
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 More options Nov 7 2008, 5:13 pm
From: "Bert Latamore" <bert.latam...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:13:33 -0500
Local: Fri, Nov 7 2008 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: [woyp] Quick Impressions of my BB Curve

Don,

That was a very interesting review. I was particularly interested in the
ability to use the phone in WiFi or GSM mode. So I could callyour cell, and
if you were home or at a hot spot somewhere and wanted to, you could receive
the call via WiFi rather than cellular?

That might be an answer to a major issue I have. I just get terrible cell
phone reception in my home/office because of the geography where we are.
Back in 2000-2005 I was using my cell as my only phone. I gave everyone my
cell number, and they could reach me wherever I was (admittedly thaat was
more of an issue then because I was moving constnatly from home to office to
my aunt's apartment). Then when we moved up here I had to give that up.

My one issue is T-mobile just does not have the coverage nationally or even
regionally that the other three major carriers do. But I might look into
this, not as a replacement PDA (I have too many apps that I need to function
that are not available on BB) but as an advanced communications device.

You mentioned that music quality compares to what you get on your iPods. Can
you carry your music on memory cards, or are you limited to what you can fit
into memory at any time? And how much memory do you have?

Also, what email systems can you use on it? I would want Gmail and Yahoo
mail. Of course if necessary I could set them both to forward to a third BB
mailbox, but that could get awkward.

Also, I don't suppose it is possible to access apps on your computer at home
via the BB? What about Internte apps like Google calendar, Picassa, Twitter,
Facebook, LinkedIn?

Sorry for so many questions. But this does interest me as a possibility. We
are on monthly extensions on our Sprint account right now and could be
convinced to switch to another carrier with the right deal.

Bert

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Donald Stidwell  
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 More options Nov 7 2008, 6:07 pm
From: Donald Stidwell <donald.stidw...@mac.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:07:49 -0500
Local: Fri, Nov 7 2008 6:07 pm
Subject: Re: [woyp] Re: Quick Impressions of my BB Curve

On Nov 7, 2008, at 17:13 , Bert Latamore wrote:

> Don,

> That was a very interesting review. I was particularly interested in  
> the ability to use the phone in WiFi or GSM mode. So I could  
> callyour cell, and if you were home or at a hot spot somewhere and  
> wanted to, you could receive the call via WiFi rather than cellular?

Bert, I don't have the personal experience, but based on what I've  
read, that's exactly the way that it works. Calls received or  
originated while on a WiFi network are NOT counted against your cell  
call minutes, even if you move out of WiFi coverage and transition to  
GSM. However, calls started on GSM will count against your minutes  
even if you transition back to WiFi coverage.

I've read varying reports on the efficiency of the handoff between  
WiFi and GSM but it seems to work most of the time as designed. Be  
aware also that you don't have to get the Curve to have this feature.  
T-Mobile has other phones (even cheap feature phones) that can use  
this feature and they also offer an optimised router (free after $50  
rebate) that is said to work perfectly with the service.

> That might be an answer to a major issue I have. I just get terrible  
> cell phone reception in my home/office because of the geography  
> where we are. Back in 2000-2005 I was using my cell as my only  
> phone. I gave everyone my cell number, and they could reach me  
> wherever I was (admittedly thaat was more of an issue then because I  
> was moving constnatly from home to office to my aunt's apartment).  
> Then when we moved up here I had to give that up.
> My one issue is T-mobile just does not have the coverage nationally  
> or even regionally that the other three major carriers do. But I  
> might look into this, not as a replacement PDA (I have too many apps  
> that I need to function that are not available on BB) but as an  
> advanced communications device.

So it would seem to be a solution for you. Now, I know that T-Mobile  
coverage can be spotty but in most areas that I have trouble with  
coverage, it just roams onto another network (no roaming charges).  
There are spots in the mountains of western Virginia and even West  
Virginia were I basically have no coverage at all. However, for the  
vast majority of places I travel, T-Mobile coverage is sufficient.  
Regarding apps, I agree, which is why I haven't but my Wing to bed. I  
have to have Pocket Bible and PhatNotes (I also use Evernote on my  
Curve, but it's nowhere near as good and complete as PhatNotes).  I  
have several other apps that while not must have are "really nice to  
have" that are not available for the Blackberry.

> You mentioned that music quality compares to what you get on your  
> iPods. Can you carry your music on memory cards, or are you limited  
> to what you can fit into memory at any time? And how much memory do  
> you have?

Oh, definitely on memory cards. Version 4.5 can address up to 16 GB  
cards. I only have a 4 GB in mine since this isn't my primary device  
for music (my iPod is) but 4 GB gives me enough to carry a few albums  
if I want to use the Curve to listen to music.

> Also, what email systems can you use on it? I would want Gmail and  
> Yahoo mail. Of course if necessary I could set them both to forward  
> to a third BB mailbox, but that could get awkward.

No problem with either of these accounts. And you don't need to set up  
forwarding. When you set up your email accounts on the Blackberry, it  
takes care of that for you. GMail does have a client for the  
Blackberry put it doesn't offer the push of the Blackberry BIS and  
from what I've read, most folks seem to prefer the BIS to the GMail  
client.

Since I have all my email forwarded to my Mobile Me account I only  
have to check one mailbox, put you can set up to 10 email accounts  
with the Blackberry Internet Service (BIS).

> Also, I don't suppose it is possible to access apps on your computer  
> at home via the BB? What about Internte apps like Google calendar,  
> Picassa, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn?

Don't know about the 1st question. Not something I'd ever want to do  
and haven't investigated. On the second, yes - I know there's a  
Facebook client (heck the icon is preloaded on the Curve) and I'm sure  
there are clients for the other named apps. Or just use the web apps.  
For example, Evernote doesn't have a Blackberry client, but the web  
interface for mobile devices works just fine.

> Sorry for so many questions. But this does interest me as a  
> possibility. We are on monthly extensions on our Sprint account  
> right now and could be convinced to switch to another carrier with  
> the right deal.

> Bert

No problem. Glad to help.

Don


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Bert Latamore  
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 More options Nov 7 2008, 6:35 pm
From: "Bert Latamore" <bert.latam...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:35:37 -0500
Local: Fri, Nov 7 2008 6:35 pm
Subject: Re: [woyp] Re: Quick Impressions of my BB Curve

Don,

Thanks. Tmobile sounds like a very interesting option. I am not excited
about thumbboards, but I understand that BB either has recently announced a
touchscreen device or is about to. Oh, one other question -- does your BB
device have Bluetooth, and if so can it support a bluetooth keyboard? I have
one of those great Igo Bluetooth keyboards, and if I could use that with the
device to do email on the road it would be very nice.

Bert

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Donald E. Stidwell  
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 More options Nov 7 2008, 6:44 pm
From: "Donald E. Stidwell" <donald.stidw...@mac.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 23:44:08 +0000
Local: Fri, Nov 7 2008 6:44 pm
Subject: Re: [woyp] Re: Quick Impressions of my BB Curve

Bert, yes it has bluetooth and I use it with my Plantonics earpiece. I don't have a BT keyboard and really don't know if one can be used. I'd suggest just Googling for the answer.

The Storm is the upcoming iPhone clone from RIM and it looks very interesting. T-Mobile isn't scheduled to carry it, at least not in the near future. Google it - there are some very interesting videos showing it in use floating around the web.

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 More options Nov 7 2008, 7:34 pm
From: "Robin Taylor" <robin...@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:34:21 -0500
Local: Fri, Nov 7 2008 7:34 pm
Subject: Re: [woyp] Re: Quick Impressions of my BB Curve

Hi, Don. What wonderful information! Thanks much.

Robin


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Donald E. Stidwell  
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 More options Nov 7 2008, 7:36 pm
From: "Donald E. Stidwell" <donald.stidw...@mac.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 00:36:29 +0000
Local: Fri, Nov 7 2008 7:36 pm
Subject: Re: [woyp] Re: Quick Impressions of my BB Curve

Robin, didn't you have a Blackberry once? I thought you had one a couple of years ago or so...

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 More options Nov 7 2008, 7:51 pm
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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:51:31 -0500
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Subject: Re: [woyp] Re: Quick Impressions of my BB Curve

Yes, Don. I did. It was one of their earlier models, and I pulled it out of the drawer for quick comparative purposes. I would love a Curve. YOWZA!

Robin


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 More options Nov 7 2008, 7:57 pm
From: "Donald E. Stidwell" <donald.stidw...@mac.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 00:57:49 +0000
Local: Fri, Nov 7 2008 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: [woyp] Re: Quick Impressions of my BB Curve

There's a newer model Curve (code name Javelin) coming to T-Mobile in January. Then there is the Bold - basically the Curve on steroids with a VGA Screen but it doesn't seem that T-Mobile is going to carry it. And the Storm... Good time to be looking at a Blackberry.

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